EPISODE 10: The Danger of Bubbles and the Past Glory of Carpet: Our Work, Money, Politics and The Man

Tamara Draut, author of “Sleeping Giant” and “Strapped,” geeks out with Carmen on why her childhood growing up in the same town as “Hillbilly Elegy” led to different conclusions, the importance of television sitcoms in politics, and why most of the wealthy don’t believe all kids should get a good education. Tamara also digs into the freelancing boom while Carmen rips into the American myth of ‘boot-straps’ and does her Fountainhead-bro impression.


Carmen Rita Wong